DJ 100 poll 2009

[derratz]

Hi folks.

If the leaked poll-listing is correct - and it pretty much looks like it is - than I only can say:
Those kids of our days don't know what is good!
That (f*ckin') Deadmau5 up to 6 and Jules down to 44?!?!
Oh come on guys, you can't mean that serioulsy!

Angry... your ratz

[DJ Carl R]

DEADMAU5 IS NOT A F**KING DJ!!! PUTTING A SET ON ABLETON AND NOT BEATMATCHING ANYTHING IS NOT DJING!!!:mad::mad::mad:

[NUMBER 2 FAN]

1. Armin van Buuren (non-mover)
2. Tiesto (non-mover)
3. David Guetta (up 2)
4. Above & Beyond (non-mover)
5. Paul van Dyk (down 2)
6. Deadmau5 (up 5)
7. Ferry Corsten (down 1)
8. Markus Schulz (non-mover)
9. Gareth Emery (up 14)
10. Sander van Doorn (up 3)
11. ATB (up 14)
12. Infected Mushroom (down 2)
13. Sasha (down 6)
14. Axwell (up 6)
15. Andy Moor (up 3)
16. Bobina (up 12)
17. John Digweed (down 8)
18. Carl Cox (down 6)
19. Cosmic Gate (up 43)
20. Steve Angello (up 43)
21. Roger Shah (up 37)
22. Aly & Fila (up 9)
23. Paul Oakenfold (down 9)
24. John O'Callaghan (up 36)
25. Sebastian Ingrosso (new entry)
26. Benny Benassi (up 13)
27. Laidback Luke (up 19)
28. Richie Hawtin (down 13)
29. Fedde Le Grand (non-mover)
30. DJ Feel (up 25)
31. Lange (up 6)
32. Hernan Cattaneo (down 16)
33. Daft Punk (up 5)
34. Eric Prydz (down 13)
35. Bob Sinclar (up 5)
36. Joachim Garraud (down 9)
37. Kyau & Albert (down 15)
38. James Zabiela (down 21)
39. Umek (down 6)
40. Christopher Lawrence (re-entry)
41. Eddie Halliwell (down 22)
42. Simon Patterson (up 22)
43. Offer Nissim (up 8)
44. Judge Jules (down 12)

Not a chart I can agree with, but I am not surprised by Jules' position, I am surprised by A&B being number 4, and the amount of Trancers in here.
Deadmau5 is actually alright, he's a bit of a twat as a person I think, but from what I gather a good night can be had if he is providing the tunage. Isn't that what it's all about!
Where's all the DnB DJ's though? And Seb Fontaine? He's a god!

[SteveArnold]

DEADMAU5 IS NOT A F**KING DJ!!! PUTTING A SET ON ABLETON AND NOT BEATMATCHING ANYTHING IS NOT DJING!!!:mad::mad::mad:

Tell that to Paul van Dyk, Sasha and every other big name DJ that also uses Ableton ;)

[DJ Carl R]

Yeah but those DJs can actually beatmix and have been doing so alongside Ableton, not using it as the be-all and end-all. Ableton has it's merits but when your gigs are just your own album over and over again, no matter how much you re-remix it, it's not DJing. He's a fine producer. One of the best around. But to call him a DJ is just wrong. That list is basically a top 100 producers list and it's getting to be a bit of a joke.

[DJ Carl R]

Thinking about the Deadmau5 issue, I've had this argument here before.

http://board.judgejules.net/showthread.php?t=928

[derratz]

Would be interesting from where all those votes come. Would make some things more clear (A&B, Tiesto, etc.).
For example Tiesto - sorry, I think his time is over, at least here in Europe. But he seems to have a big standing in America (North and South).
I must admitt that I am not very much surprised by that list, too - but I don't like a few positions, e.g. Deamau5.
One thing I like, however, is all those trancers up there :-)
So let's see tomorrow if that's really the final list and be glad that no minimal-guy like "Onur Özer" or so is even near the top spot ;-)

[NUMBER 2 FAN]

Tell that to Paul van Dyk, Sasha and every other big name DJ that also uses Ableton ;)

Times change!!

[SteveArnold]

Yeah but those DJs can actually beatmix and have been doing so alongside Ableton, not using it as the be-all and end-all. Ableton has it's merits but when your gigs are just your own album over and over again, no matter how much you re-remix it, it's not DJing. He's a fine producer. One of the best around. But to call him a DJ is just wrong. That list is basically a top 100 producers list and it's getting to be a bit of a joke.

I can only guess you haven't seen him play many times then as that just is no the case.

Also, you don't 'beatmatch alongside Ableton', you warp your tracks at home which means you don't need to beatmatch.

Beatmatching is probably the smallest part of DJing. Look at what Richie Hawtin does in his sets and tell me he doesn't deserve praise because he's not beatmatching?

Fan Number 2 - I agree, times do move on, the age of beatmatching is starting to pass us by as the digital revolution moves forward. It's just a shame that some people get stuck in the past

[DJ Carl R]

Steve, I have to disagree with you. Beatmatching is nowhere near the smallest part of DJing. It's consistently the most difficult part and the day it's no longer necessary will be a very sad day for the art indeed as it seperates the wheat from the chaff and the skilled and the wannabes.
And yes, you can use Ableton alongside conventional decks. It's quite easy to beatmix between Ableton and a pair of decks. The salesguy at the Decks.co.uk showroom in London showed me when I went to pick up my mate's Serato set.
Stuck in the past? I prefer to be stuck in the art rather than let a computer do all the work. If that's the past then so be it.

[DJ Carl R]

I wouldn't go so far as to say vinyl is long gone. There is still a dedicated few that continue to use it. Be they actively going out to find rare gems like the old days of record shops, or using serato so they still get the feel of vinyl. But it's certainly well into it's sunset years. CD mixing requires the same skill-set (regardless of what vinyl junkies tell you!) and IMHO has the same difficulty. Now with the new decks from Pioneer, DJs will still be able to use their digital music yet not need to bother bringing an expensive laptop to venues. Rather, you can just take a USB memory stick with all your tracks on it. So as far a digital taking over, these advances in deck technology alone mean that the end of beatmixing is not upon us and shouldn't be for a very long time (thank the gods!).
Tiësto is popular because his name went mainstream years ago. Many part-time and occasional clubbers know his name and few else. Similar with Deadmau5 going mainstream now, which has probably inspired many votes.
I myself voted for DJs that I've seen and really enjoyed having felt the energy of the set, the skill in it's execution and the DJ looking like he actually enjoyed being there.
Ferry Corsten was one of these as his set in Amnesia for Cream was utterly mindblowing! Jules too, who let me have a picture taken with him in the DJ box at Kanya for the Judgement Sunday pre-party (Can we say 'Facebook Profile Pic'!)
When it comes down to it, you have to ask yourself this. Do I want a DJ who interacts with the crowd, or one that stares at a computer screen?
I know what I'd prefer.

[DJ Palenque]

travesty alert! Judge Jules No44 DJ in the world...WTF! and Armin van Boring No1 again..this is ballsuckingly bad.

I can only presume that DJMag's readership has changed somewhat over the last few years, either that or all the incessant canvassing has paid off for the van Buuren.

I can't beliece that AvB is number 1 again, I almost nodded off the last time I saw him play a set...monotonous dull and cliched.

Indeed it is a list of producers, and until recently Jules hasn't produced much, or at least made as much of a fanfare about it like Tiesto and AvB.

Jules' entertainment factor, strange gestures behind the decks and (in Ibiza at least champagne-fuelled beatmatch fumblings) are what DJing is all about.

If you just want to hear pre-progammed computer music why not get rid of DJs completely?

I like Tiesto, he was brilliant at Victoria Park, and actually got involved with geeing up the crowd, but Armin's a f**king drone, who has done nothing of interest since 'Blue Fear' and that's going back a few years!

Rant over...but still livid!:mad:

[Ian_k]

dj palenque - id sooner armin be number one than any other dj in the chart at the moment..........his sets are on another level compared to a number of djs in the chart, and the way armin can harmonically mix and build a set is top notch, hes number one for a reason that is hes a great dj, hes popular, and it shows it aint all about being a producer.

jules imo is a good dj and iv seen him live, but in the past year 2 being honest has let things slip and hes in that position for a reason, its not the end of the world, but when you play crap booties, mixing slips often, and cant build sets seomtimes when your a top level dj, thats the position you go down to.

you mention armin canvassing votes, not once did he ask people to vote for him, he said place your votes for your top5 djs in this years dj poll on both twitter and asot podcasts, never directly asked people to vote for him - jules however did, no issue with that, but armin didnt do what you say he did and yes he deserves to be number 1 imo.
armin is also one of the nicest djs in the industry id say, and unlike tiesto or pvd he hasnt let being a number one dj blow his ego out of the window.

[DJ Palenque]

I take your point about Armin being a nice guy etc, but his sets are a snooze-fest as far as I'm concerned.

At least with Jules, Tiesto and PvD you occasionally get a bit of a surprise and a few 'hairs standing up on the back of the neck' moments- as I said Armin's sets, while beautifully constructed and mixed, are dull repetitive and same-y.

[paulhopwood]

I think with some djs it depends on what their mood is on the night, if they have travelled along way they may be jet lagged or just plain tired.

I have met Armin on a number of occassions and he has always come accross as a very personable chap - however as for his sets, yes they do tend to rip the roof off the venue but do have a habit of being a little (as planenque delicatly put it) same-y.

Djs are just like us normal folk and affected by things that are happening in their personal and work lives - if they are not feeling particularly well, or just having a bad day then it can affect their sets on the night. Also, the top 10 djs have to live under the pressure of being the top 10 djs and people expecting them to be 100%, 100% of the time.

[Ian_k]

yehhh but personally speaking i wouldnt class him a worse or lesser good dj as tiesto.
tiesto was oustandingly good 4 years ago, now hes dull and boring and up his own ass, hes egotistical too.

armin is an overall niceguy, his sets are on another level i personally think, he can take the roof off places, yet will still player smaller venues too. i dont class huis sets as dull unlike tiesto or pvd nowdays and i wouldnt say anyone else in the chart deserved the no,.1 spot, by far tiesto doesnt, neither does pvd. armin probably does the way rocks a crowd, and pvd nooooo blody way he doesnt, especially for the whole thing about him and atb - ego taking controll pvd??

[DJ Palenque]

Lol, looks like Armin won by default then!

What's all this about PvD and ATB (clash of the acronyms!?) have they had some sort of spat?

[derratz]

PvD vs: ATB: longer story about an incident at "planet love" festival in Irland this year. According to Jules, it looks like ATB behaved a little bit "unprofessional" but no one knows for sure what happened. And I think no one will ever know. Those two DJs simply don't like each other, as they didn't even before that incident.

[NUMBER 2 FAN]

as per ATB:-

ATB Twitter:

Unbelievable! I'm now at the Planet Love Festival! Its 10 pm, my scheduled playtime! But the organizer doesn't allow me to do my Gig because

Paul van dyk don't want me to play right before his set! If I would play now Paul told the organizers that he is not willing to play.

You will get more Information very soon! Sorry to all the Fans there waiting for me! Unbelievable!

ATB Forum:

You won´t believe what you will read now.

I..m just back in my hotelroom (05.09.2009, 10:30 PM), but actually I should be on stage at the Planet Love Festival in Belfast now.
The reality is, that the organizers just told me and my manager one our ago at the festival, that Paul van Dyk told them, that when I play (my contracted playtime was 10-12 PM) my set right before his set 12-2 AM, he will not play! So the organizers decided to throw me out of the lineup!

I just want to let you know, how people in this scene and business works and of course this will have consequences to all concerned parties!

I..m so sorry for all the fans out there, who wasn't able to see me.

Andre (atb)

More information about this night coming soon!

And finally:

# On my way now to New York. Playing Electric Zoo festival same time with Guetta! I'm in luck that Paul van dyk is not playing in NY! ;o)26 minutes ago from web


as per the promoter:-

OFFICIAL STATMENT:

ATB refuses to play Planetlove

It is with regret that I have to pen one of the worst unprofessional incidents we have encountered in almost 25 years of booking artists.

At 7pm on Saturday evening we respectfully asked ATB to help us with the smooth running of the show by playing his set at the festival from approximately 9pm to 11pm instead of his requested time of 10pm to 12midnight and he point blankly refused.

Instead he arrived at the site and chose to verbally abuse and threaten Judith, so much so that he had to be asked to calm down by his manager and security called as Judith feared that things would escalate further.

The facts are very simple. ATB chose not to play at all to the same crowd, in the same arena for the same two hour set rather than play one hour earlier!

I ask any rational person to try and relate to this.

He was paid in full, in advance, as where his flights and transport. He was treated with courtesy and respect but rather than play one hour earlier than he wanted to he hurled abuse, issued threats, wouldn’t play the new time and proceeded to blame PVD and was so convinced from the outset that it was PVD's doing that he even tried to coerce Judith into writing down that it was PVD’s fault. Paul Van Dyk did not even arrive at the venue until 11:45pm.

Never before has an artist refused to help with the smooth running of our shows and try and dictate what they should do. At the end of the day this show was about all artists and the people who went to enjoy them, not about one individual.

My thanks to the other artists, in particular Judge Jules, who did adapt to the time changes which facilitated the production crews the time to change over the defective generator during his set which was causing the problem in the first place. It is my belief that because of Jules help in the set time before 12 midnight that the change over was done in such a professional manner that I believe the crowd were not even aware that there was a problem. So simple when people work together.

(copied from a post made by Ian k att on another forum)

[DJ Carl R]

Either side could be telling the truth. Or the truth could be a sort of bastard child of the two stories. I doubt we'll ever know for sure. TBH though, it does seem like ATB was throwing his toys out of his pram.

If the statement is to be believed though, once again Jules is the one to save the day and thus worthy of my vote! Jules=Legend!:D

[DJ Palenque]

Has anyone else noted the irony that this spat apparently happened at Planet LOVE!?

:p

[mroy559]

Sure but these DJs can in fact beatmix and have been doing so alongside Ableton, not deploying it as this be-all as well as end-all. Ableton features it's value but when your gigs are only your unique album again and again, no matter just how much you re-remix it, it's not DJing. He's a fine producer. Among the finest around. But to call your pet a DJ is simply wrong. That list is defined as a best 100 makers list and getting to get a bit of a joke.

[mroy559]

a longer period story about an incident at "planet love" occasion in Irland this period. According to Jules, it looks like ATB were a little bit "unprofessional" but no one knows for sure what happened. And I think no one will ever know. Those two DJs generally don't like each other, as they didn't even before that incident.

[mroy559]

Jules imo is an excellent dj in addition to iv observed him are living, but before year 2 currently being straightforward offers let factors ease in addition to hes as position for the reason, it is not really the tip on the world, but after you participate in rubbish booties, combining slips usually, in addition to can't create sets seomtimes as soon as your a top level dj, that's the career you go along to.

[johan121]

The DJ Mag Top 100 list is literally the most enormous music poll on earth.